[EO San Francisco] The Power of Mindset in Personal Development and Finding Love With Sarah Moody

Sarah Moody is a mentor specializing in helping high-achieving women find their ideal partners within 90 days, leveraging her extensive experience from two decades of dating and her personal success in finding her soulmate. Her approach combines one-on-one mentoring with cutting-edge mindset courses, aiming to assist her clients in creating an iconic life. In addition to her mentoring services, Sarah is known for her keynote speeches and her podcast, where she shares transformation stories and mindset strategies.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

Sarah Moody shares her origin story, being fired from a startup in 2001 and starting over again
How Sarah managed to start and grow a business in a post-9/11 economy
The role of mindset in overcoming personal and professional challenges
Strategies for cultivating a positive mindset for personal growth
The journey of finding love through self-improvement and mindset shifts
Sarah‘s approach to mentoring and personal development
The impact of mindset on relationship success and finding the “fuck yeah” guy
Practical tips from Sarah on embracing change and pursuing passio

In this episode…

Have you ever wondered what truly unlocks success in love and personal growth? It’s a journey that many people embark on, but what’s the secret ingredient to making it all come together?

Sarah Moody, a seasoned mentor specializing in personal development and relationships, believes the answer lies within the power of mindset. She highlights the transformative potential of adopting a positive outlook and actively working towards self-improvement. This approach, Sarah argues, is crucial in overcoming obstacles and realizing one’s aspirations in both personal growth and romantic endeavors. Her experience underscores that with the right mindset, individuals can navigate the complexities of life and love more effectively, paving the way for fulfillment and genuine connections.

In this episode of the Rising Entrepreneurs Podcast, John Corcoran and Sarah Moody explore the transformative role of mindset in personal development and finding love. They discuss Sarah’s pivotal career change, the importance of mindset in overcoming life’s challenges, and actionable advice for those looking to enhance their personal and romantic lives.

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Episode Transcript

Intro 0:03

Welcome to the Rising Entrepreneurs Podcast where we feature top founders and entrepreneurs and their journey. Now let’s get started with the show.

John Corcoran 0:13

Alright, welcome everyone, John Corcoran here, the co host of this show. And you know, check out our archives got some great episodes there. And we’ve got all kinds of interesting entrepreneurs and founders and executives that have been on this show. And of course, I’ll introduce our guests in a second. But first before we get to that this episode brought to you by EO San Francisco, which is the local chapter of Entrepreneurs Organization, which is a global peer to peer network of more than 18,000 influential business owners of 200 some chapters all over the globe. And if you’re a founder, co founder or owner or controlling shareholder of a company that generates over a million dollars a year in revenue, and you want to connect with other like minded successful entrepreneurs, then EO is for you. In the EO San Francisco chapter navels leading entrepreneurs in the Bay Area to learn grow and achieve greater success and to learn how it works or to come to a test drive. You can join us at eonetwork.org/sanfrancisco. And this episode also brought to you by my company, Rise25, where we help b2b businesses to get and connect with their dream 200 relationships and partnerships, helping them to run a podcast that generates ROI. And if you have questions about that, you can go to our website at rise25.com. All right, I’m excited to hear today. Our guest is Sarah Moody. She’s a newer member of Entrepreneurs Organization San Francisco, but she’s been an entrepreneur for a long time. And she recently pivoted her business. So we’re gonna talk about pivoting a business from something she’d been doing for a long time, but 20 years shifting into something new. But Sarah, such a pleasure to have you here, here. And here. And I always love to ask people about kind of their origin story, how they got into entrepreneurship. And for you, it was a, we’ve heard this story before. 2001 was a bit of a year for many people. And you got fired from a startup. And we’re find yourself kind of dusting yourself off and starting over again. So tell us about what that experience was like.

Sarah Moody 2:04

Yeah, absolutely. And it’s such a pleasure being on your show, John, and thanks to everyone who’s tuning in today. I’m excited to be here. So yeah, I grew up in a family of corporate bankers. And so the idea of being an entrepreneur was not really close in my mind, and not really something that I saw as a role model. But I started my career in retail. And in my late 20s, I moved into tech, and I was with a big tech startup. And then I got learn in the.com era to a pure startup. And to make a long story short, in 2001, on a Friday morning at 10am, I was fired, I got a call from my boss. And he said, Sarah, the company’s imploding, and you’re getting fired. And I’ve never been fired in my entire life. And my stomach just fell to the floor. And I immediately panicked and immediately was like, Oh, my god, how am I going to pay my rent? I live in San Francisco, how am I going to pay my car payment, like it was a gut wrenching Friday morning. And what I feel so grateful for is I had these two incredible friends in my life. One was an entrepreneur. And then the other was a new orange bird. Like one was an older entrepreneur. The other was like a newer entrepreneur. And they both gave me advice that got me on this path. One was, Hey, Sarah, you love to raise vintage cars in Europe, in these car rallies, think of this as a pebble in the road of life and drive over it. And I was like, Okay, I got that visual. And then the other entrepreneur was like, Hey, listen, you have such amazing expertise and network, like I was really, really good in Product Marketing. Like, why don’t you just you know, I’ll help you find your first gig. And within three weeks, I had my first client, and that was 2001. And it was, it was incredible. But also to like, just a quick kind of side note. I did think long and hard about going back into corporate America. But what I love, one of the many things I love about being an entrepreneur, is this idea of flexibility and freedom. I wanted to be able to work with amazing clients in tech, doing product marketing, and then get on a plane and go and do one of my passions, which is driving vintage cars and rallies in Europe. So I love the freedom that we have as entrepreneurs.

John Corcoran 4:33

Yeah. And you also had this is kind of crazy time you you said you were laid off. It was a Friday morning and you had prearranged plans to go to Park City, Utah to the Sundance Film Festival, which you love film. What was that like? Like getting laid off and then having to like get back on your game and write it go and enjoy yourself for the weekend.

Sarah Moody 4:54

I worked from that pit in my stomach of like, oh my god, how am I gonna pay my rent? Because I think I got like one month severance because the company was literally imploding. It’s called commerce one. And we got on a plane at four o’clock that afternoon, or maybe it was two o’clock to go to Park City. And because it was with one of my oldest best friends, it was just this like blanket of war. And she was such a big cheerleader of mine. So it was like, cheerleading blanket of warm, and then I could get lost and forget all about it. And like the world of movies and celebrities and stars for like three days in Park City. So it was it was that kind of experience, John.

John Corcoran 5:37

Reight, helpful to get on a plane and get out of town and be able to enjoy something else. Yeah. 100% Yeah, interesting timing, because I think they say that March of 2001 was kind of like the peak of the.com, boom, and the beginning of the bubble. And this was January 2000. Once it was right, as things were, were just, you know, companies were imploding.

Sarah Moody 5:56

Yeah. And I was reading, I remember reading, I think, 2 million people were laid off at that time in the just in the US. So think everyone in Houston loses their job. So that was another thing that I thought in my mind is well, like, okay, there are, you know, so many people are getting laid off in the Bay Area, do I want to go like compete for this job? Or I’m probably gonna have to work eight days a week again? Or do I want the flexibility and I really got connected to my values and my why and what’s important to me. And so that really helped me with the fear and the anxiety of not being able to pay my rent and just taking a leap of faith that I could do this.

John Corcoran 6:34

Yeah. So let’s talk about kind of those early years, especially that year, because later that year, September 2001, was 9/11. And then the economy got even worse after that. What was it like for you? You know, getting clients in this time period when it was so chaotic economically?

Sarah Moody 6:53

Yeah, what was really interesting back then was there, it’s probably about like two or three years, maybe even a little bit longer where companies were so gun shy about hiring FTE is that, ironically enough, we had so much demand, we had a lot of fun for our services. And what I did for about 23 years was I worked with the C suite of some of the largest tech companies on the planet. And I helped them build like, customer advisory boards, and executive engagement programs, everything around building loyalty and driving revenue using their customers. So for those few years, I was really blessed. And I had good clients paid well, you know, I still had a lot of like, internal, you know, fear and anxiety, like, is this gonna, you know, like, is this gonna stay? Or is this gonna, you know, implode again, there was still some of that. And so I still had to do some internal work around working around my mindset and my belief that, yeah, I can be really successful doing this. And so that took a couple of years, and some more kind of proof points of more and more big tech companies hiring me to really solidify my place as like, yeah, I am an entrepreneur.

John Corcoran 8:08

Yeah. And then I imagine at some point, you thought, well, you know, it’s just me, I need to bring in some other people to meet this demand. So talk a little about hiring people bringing other team members.

Sarah Moody 8:19

Yeah, yeah. So. So what I did, probably about halfway through my 20 year span in this space was, I was working with companies like Hewlett Packard, for example. And they kept wanting to know exactly, I was doing great. I’m definitely an overachiever. And so I was able to bring in some some some subcontractors, I started off with subcontractors, and kind of having them on my team and having them underneath me. So my clients would hire a team of us to come in. And I was, you know, I’m really lucky. I live in San Francisco, I have an incredible network. I know so many people. So I was really, it was easy for me to be able to call some of my peers, get some of their team members who had been laid off, or, you know, wanted to go off and just be contractors and not work full time and tech. And I was able to build a team pretty easily actually, I think it helped that the work we were doing was really helping drive revenue and was, you know, definitely something targeted to the C suite. So my team, you get a lot of visibility with leaders in tech and, and it was fun, like, we would work with the teams that did all the logistics. And so you know, one of the many outings that we did, we built the C suite board for Hewlett Packard was the logistics team, not my team. We did like the content of the strategy, the logistics team organized us going to me staying at the Four Seasons for the board meeting and then go into like Monaco and go into the Grand Prix. And so you know, yes, the incredible were to build a board at the C suite and build out the agenda and drive this drive all the strategy back to the company. But lots of fun too, with the logistics team.

John Corcoran 10:09

Yeah, I could see how it’d be too hard, just sell a new new hire on the possibilities. On the on the flip side, though, you have this relationship with the C suite. And a lot of times what we hear is people struggle with the idea of, you know, we’ve got these critical relationships with the clients, high level clients, and in the struggle is getting people who can replace you and have that stature and be able to manage a relationship of have that level of that caliber. How did you deal with that?

Sarah Moody 10:43

I, I found my phone have I had or I, you know, I changed my entire business model three weeks ago. And I will I know, we’ll talk about that. But I, I hired someone who was my thought partner, my strategic partner, like the same level of experience could, you know, talk to the chief marketing officer and the CEO at Splunk, just like I could. And so I was really blessed to be able to find a complete Rockstar to kind of be in the business with me. Yeah. The business of the CEO, but he was definitely my thought partner.

John Corcoran 11:22

Yeah. Yeah. So finding someone who can kind of serve the same role as you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What about now is a long period of time, we’re 20 years, but 2007 comes to mind 2008, the whole great recession, you’re about six years into the business at that point. Take us back to that period. Was that a big bump in the road for you?

Sarah Moody 11:45

You know, fortunately, I mean, I’m just gonna have to say that again, like, fortunately, there was still, we have so much innovation out here, so many companies that are just popping up left and right back then. But even though, you know, overall, the economics were challenging for our country. Out here, I really think of the fact that we live in a bubble. And so I started actually working with a lot of startups, a lot of founders, that, you know, were working for Hewlett Packard, and we were working for some of the big companies that went off to go start off, start their own small companies, a lot of them moved to Israel. And so I was working with, with like, a lot of Israeli tech company. So I shifted back then to the big guys, as well as helping the little guys start to build up, you know, customer engagement, customer loyalty, driving their corporate strategy, making sure they have a product market fit by bringing in their most trusted advisors, also known as their customers. So I was able to shift my business model to, you know, address, keeping my company thriving during those times.

John Corcoran 12:56

Yeah, of course, another big inflection point was 2020, when a lot of companies really struggled, march 2020, COVID hits. Sounds like you’re doing a lot of work all over the globe by this point. Take us back to that period in time. What was that? Like for you? What, you know, what was it like for you, as you realize that this, you know, pandemic stay at home order, all that stuff was happening?

Sarah Moody 13:18

Yeah, yeah. You know, my birthday is the day that the world shut down March 13. Yeah, yeah. So I remember like, going out to dinner with my sister on my birthday on March 13, and having this awesome dinner and Pacific Heights, and then exactly finding out that the wall was shutting down. And I had about three or four really big tech clients back then. And so, you know, we had a thriving business and, and something inside of me just went to this place as the roll was shutting down, and we all had to stay at home of like, Hey, Sarah, this could be your opportunity to also just drop in inside of you, and go deep, and start doing some work inside, start doing some more work around your mindset. You know, I definitely noticed that I would have phases of like being burnt out and overworked and super high stress. And I knew that because I was, you know, saw a lot of I saw a lot of other entrepreneurs, I knew that there could be a place where there could be a little bit more ease in my life. So in 2020, I went deep in cognitive behavioral therapy. I went deep in, like just learning a lot about myself. And knowing that if I went deep alert more about myself, I could bring all those learnings and that confidence to, you know, really taking my business to the next level. So I wrote a book. I started a podcast and I started mentoring, high achieving when miniTek was struggling with burnout. So that was what I was doing because we all couldn’t go out. So I started a part of my company that was a mentoring or coaching practice. And it was all about helping women see what was going on in their mind, and how that was creating burnout and anxiety and overwhelm, and keeping them really stuck in their roles and stuck in their life. And, you know, just really helping them like with a big unlock and changing their mindset. So they could really thrive at work.

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John Corcoran 15:32

And was there were there lessons? Or is there knowledge that came from the work that you did previously, the customer experience work that you’ve done, that you brought to that work?

Sarah Moody 15:48

No, I really just kept the mentoring of the high achieving women is strictly around mindset work strictly around, if you don’t have the right mindset, like, give me your reality, like, show me your reality. And I will know what’s going on in your mind. So I really just stuck with mentoring coaching, helping them with their mindset, helping them process feelings, help them, you know, just be an example of what’s possible. I mean, so many of these women, I just got a video yesterday from from one of the women that I worked with last year, and she’s a CEO, and a founder of a health tech startup in LA. And her dream, for her entire life was to go to Harvard, but she never thought it was possible now that she was a CEO and founder. And she just sent me a video yesterday from the grounds of Harvard, and she’s doing her interview, and she crushed it. And so I, you know, for me, 2020 was a year of like, How can I mentor and support women to really unlock their potential, and just create an iconic life for themselves, professionally and personally.

John Corcoran 16:59

So it was that I know, you said 2021, you made a big shift in the business, was that the shift? Or was there an additional?

Sarah Moody 17:05

No, that was one shift. So 2020 was one share for I added that to my portfolio of services to my clients. And then in 2021, what I started noticing in tech was like a lot of people in my space, a lot of a lot of like, FTE is in my space, a lot of service providers in my space. And so what I decided to do was think even even more strategically about what I offered as a company, and, and it was combining executive, customer experience or for CX, which was, you know, still really hot in terms of the customer experience and how that correlates to net promoter score and profits and shareholder value, and customer marketing. So I brought them together. And I built out an overall strategy and set a programming and a team to go into big tech companies, and do executive customer experience programs. So everything around the strategy that this that ideally the C suite engages in to drive executive customer engagement. So it was a company wide offering that I then went to companies with hmm.

John Corcoran 18:21

And was that something that again, you’re at the core of it? Or is that something that you built out a team to, for them to deliver as well,

Sarah Moody 18:29

I built out an incredible team to go in to mostly large tech companies, and work directly with the CEO and the CMO. Because really what we were doing then is changing culture. You know, really moving from, you know, so many tech companies live quarter to quarter, a very transactional mindset of like, you know, let’s close the deal, go to the next client, et cetera, et cetera. So really helping them shift from a transactional mindset to a value oriented mindset of like, what value am I bringing to my customers? And so there was a lot of culture change.

John Corcoran 19:06

And, and yeah, and of course, this this time period, 2021 people are still working from home even today, as we record this in 2024. A lot of these companies are effed up, got a weird hybrid model. So culture has changed dramatically. And so companies are having to adapt to that.

Sarah Moody 19:24

Yeah, exactly. So yeah, we started doing that in 2021 and 2022, and that was extremely successful. And then, you know, 2023 I got really physically unwell I was really sick started the end of January. And, you know, I never experienced this level of illness before and so it was like You hear that saying, if you don’t have your health, you have nothing and it really was a year of, of digging deep of, you know, trying to heal myself physically but Also, what do I want to do? You know, like, I’m so felt so aligned with my passion and purpose when I was being of service to women for those, you know, starting in 2020. And doing that for about three years, and, and I kept it small. And so I really just struggled with, you know, what do I really want to do? Do I want to keep doing this big, you know, World of attack and helping them drive revenue? Or do I want to go help the humans like, create an iconic life and drive and love their career and their families and all the things and find love. And so I went deep spiritually. I did another level of healing. And in the middle of January of 2024, I made a big decision to close the door at a seven figure tech business and go all in on helping women find love.

John Corcoran 20:59

What, what sorts of things did you do? Like? Are there resources? Are there books that you read? Are there podcasts that you listen to? Did you go on retreat somewhere? Did you have a coach like, what were the resources you used?

Sarah Moody 21:13

That’s an awesome question, there are probably about five different things that I did. One was I hired a therapist, and I use the healing modality EMDR, Eye Movement Desensitization therapy, and it’s for PTSD. And it was invented here in San Francisco about 40 years ago. And now it’s used like with the VA, and it’s used by the police. And it’s used globally as a way to a one transaction one session, you, you heal your subconscious, you heal fears, and limiting beliefs that are holding you back. So EMDR was one. The next thing that I did was what’s called NSA, Network Spinal Analysis. So think of it as like, having a chiropractor, who energetically shifts your spine and gets your whole energy and vibration like back in alignment. So it’s really subtle, like a super chiropractor. It’s a soup, nothing moves, other than, like, light touch and energy. It’s one of the most healing modalities I have ever experienced. But did that. Number three, was I reconnected with my spirituality, I wouldn’t, I probably broke up with like, believing in a higher power or believing in God, but as about seven years old, and I know exactly why I did it. And I actually use EMDR to help me clear that.

John Corcoran 22:50

Were you raised in a religious household?

Sarah Moody 22:54

Not I went to Catholic schools since I was a teen until I was a teenager. But there was a it was family stuff that really that just severed my level of connection between myself and something higher than myself. And so I used EMDR to heal that. And I really, then worked on deeping deepening my spiritual practice, deepening my faith, deepening my belief, deepening my knowing and connection to myself and my higher power, you know, whatever that is for anybody. For my sister, it’s nature. For my best friend. It’s, you know, the Divine Feminine for me, it’s God, like, whatever that thing is, like, that has helped me so much, especially with like, the big pivot that I’ve done in the last like three weeks.

John Corcoran 23:42

And did you go back to the Catholic Church? Or did you find a new spirituality?

Sarah Moody 23:49

No, I did not go. You know what, I never really even though I went to Catholic school, I would never have considered myself Catholic. Probably just more Christian. Yeah, you know, I consider myself a Christian. Yeah, I live in San Francisco every now and then I go to Grace Cathedral, which is not far from my house. And to me, it’s just, even just everyday it’s just to me, what I do is I meditate. I drop in I meditate, get really connected to myself, and really quiet. And then I’m really able to listen to guidance that comes in. I believe that we’re all energy. John, I believe that we’re all connected. I believe that what ever we desire exists already in the universe. I’m a big Joe Dispenza fan. He’s a doctor. He’s a neuroscientist. He’s a quantum physicist. So he’s one of my teachers. And yeah, I hired a coach. I hired a coach named Brooke Castillo and she’s built a $60 million business. She’s incredible. So Coach, therapist, those modes Nowadays I journaled a lot, I cried a lot. I, you know, I had to do a lot, I had to do a next level of feeling inside and, and, and really knowing that I was very attached to certainty, which we all are as humans, I really had to deepen that relationship with myself and feel the certainty from inside versus certainty outside.

John Corcoran 25:30

And you know what’s happening with the business as you’re going on this journey. Is it continuing to operate?

Sarah Moody 25:36

Its operating. But you know, thankfully, it can operate. And I’m already a high achiever. And so it’s I wouldn’t say it’s like, I’m not like closing deals left and right. Yeah. Like, you know, 2022 was like, the top of the roller coaster was like the peak, you know, in 2023. Like, we’re on the backside.

John Corcoran 25:57

Yeah. I mean, typically, when you hear, yeah, when you hear someone say that they went through a health crisis, or they go through a spiritual crisis, where that’s taking a lot of their time, energy and attention, then the business suffers, right? Unless they have amazing systems in place. And it’s kind of running itself.

Sarah Moody 26:15

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I would say that, like the business went back in terms of a revenue number to where it was in 2020.

John Corcoran 26:28

And so you come to this kind of epiphany. What happens next?

Sarah Moody 26:35

Well, I come to this epiphany. And I immediately just feel like this is why I’m on this planet. This is why I’m here I am. I am here to be of service to women to help them find love. And it all happened around January 19.

John Corcoran 26:52

Everything in January with you, there’s a repeating pattern.

Sarah Moody 26:55

I know right, everything. Yeah, John, I got fired. I think it was January 19th, 2001. That’s a Friday. I got totally clear about this whole pivot and new chapter on January 19, 2024.

John Corcoran 27:14

Wow, that’s crazy. Put it on your calendar for all future January 19. Because big things happen on that day, I think you should happen. Yeah, you should not be occupied. Don’t drive any heavy machinery on those days.

Sarah Moody 27:27

Exactly. But it was one of those things where like, I was at this event with a bunch of with 40 women. And we you know, 95% of that were so just needed to believe in themselves. And we’re just really struggling and I was like, Okay, this is my sign like this is this. I have so much to share and mentor with these women, I can be of such great service. So I am now as of three weeks ago, my brand and company helps women, high achieving women find their Fuck yeah, guy in 90 days, has a great tagline. I did it is really easy. I did it two years ago. And I’ve helped so many women in love. And I was like, You know what? I’m gonna, I’m going to do this. So yeah, I do that. And then I have a podcast all about your iconic life and really, you know, sharing stories from either a my clients or be just women and all different industries about how they are, you know, taking their life by the balls, and creating an iconic life that they love.

John Corcoran 28:41

I want to ask about kind of some of the advice you give to women, when women come to you and they’re struggling and what your like, first pieces of advice are, but before we get to that, I want to ask about so you come to this epiphany, but you got this business, do you go back and lay everyone off? What is that? Like? What happens to the existing business?

Sarah Moody 29:01

Yeah, so I you know, everyone on my team knew what was going on in 2023. With me, they knew that I was about my house stuff, they knew what was going on for me in terms of the business and be struggling in terms of which direction I wanted to go in. So I consciously did not sign any new tech clients in 2023. And I worked with my team to, you know, a help them find new clients be helped them, you know, find full time roles. And so it was a I have just this incredible team. And we literally were like a family. And so it was because we were so close and we’ve done such amazing work together and we were all really vulnerable and real like you can feel I am. It was a very collaborative, easy, genuine process done with a lot of integrity and love.

John Corcoran 30:02

Because that is not an easy conversation to go into, for many people.

Sarah Moody 30:08

And that’s one of the things that I try and teach women as well is those difficult conversations, they’re only difficult because we have this idea and construct in my mind that we think they’re going to be difficult. But when we connect with our heart, and we come at anything from a human loving kind, we’re all humans connected perspective. It’s a very different conversation. It’s difficult, it’s probably love.

John Corcoran 30:39

So I imagine that relates to the work that you do now. So what, what is the process? Like, you know, let’s say I’m a woman coming to you and struggling with, you know, finding their ‘fuck yeah’ guy. What, what is your process? How do you, you know, what do you where do you start with them?

Sarah Moody 30:56

Yeah. So thankfully, in 2020, I was building a lot of content. So I’ve got incredible courses. So what I offer is one on one mentoring with me, for 90 days, every week, we get on Zoom. And we do all the mindset work we need to do. Number two, I’ve got courses. So I’ve got a course you know, the magnetic feminine, I’ve got a course called, you know, The Mindset Fucking Makeover. And I’ve got a course called Your Iconic Life, and their modules and all of them. So there’s lots all of my work is clearing out the subconscious of limiting beliefs that go on in women’s minds of, he’s not available, he’s not out there, I’m not young enough, I’m too, I’m too overweight, all of the stories that we come up with. So it’s one on one mentoring, it’s cutting edge, cognitive mindset courses, lots of exercises together. And then there’s a whole spiritual component as well, you know, just whatever that spiritual component means to my clients, they do that work, as well with me.

John Corcoran 32:06

I’m curious about this. You know, there’s certain businesses where you know, like, to be a chiropractor, you don’t have to have the bad back, you just have to help other people fix their back, you know, to be a barber, you don’t have to have the world’s perfect haircut to cut someone’s hair. But there are certain ways and for many years, you know, you were in, in customer marketing, you were helping these big tech companies, to acquire customers to build relationships with their customers, but now you’re in a business, where do you feel that it’s, you know, that, that you, you have to like, kind of walk the walk, like you mentioned, you got, you know, you got a guy two years ago? Let’s say that, you know, if you didn’t have that relationship, would you? Would it be okay for you to be in that business? Am I making sense out of all this? Or is it?

Sarah Moody 32:57

So I mean, you’re asking a great question, John, I’ll give you my own personal opinion. My own personal, you know, yeah, you can learn how to cut hair, you can learn how to like, make, you know, like, whatever.

John Corcoran 33:10

Make adjustments or whatever. Yeah.

Sarah Moody 33:12

But but I think this world of personal development and personal growth is a very personal experience. And, for me, my experience is, the coaches, and teachers that I’ve hired, have all gone down the journey, and are a couple of years ahead of me. And so what they can do is they can bring a whole menu, like think of it as like a whole buffet of modalities, I shared five different modalities that I use last year, right? There are lots of different things out there. But what I found is I’m going to get the most success, losing the 10 pounds from someone who’s done this before, because everything is mindset, as well as everything that you know, the meal plan and all the things, you know, for me, if a woman came to me and said, Sarah helped me find love. And my fuck yeah, guy in 90 days, and I hadn’t done it. I wouldn’t know. But 99% of this is, is your mindset and feminine energy. I wouldn’t know that, because I hadn’t done that. So my experience is the best with practitioners who’ve been there done that and have experience and can guide me, yes, I can decide to do these two modalities and pull in something else that works for me. Maybe meditation doesn’t work for me, for example. But I think the most alignment and the most and the best results that that humans will have is when they come to somebody who’s been there done that.

John Corcoran 34:55

Well as someone who has had more than one pivot in my career, I think It’s amazing that you know you’ve made this really major shift and and that you’re now pursuing something that really lights you up and I can tell from your just from your energy, how much you enjoy doing it. And it’s such a pleasure having you part of the San Francisco chapters and Sarah, where can people go to learn more about you and connect with you?

Sarah Moody 35:18

Yeah, they can go to sarahmoody.com. And Sarah L. Moody on Instagram, Sarah Moody on X and LinkedIn.

John Corcoran 35:29

Awesome, Sarah. Thanks so much.

Sarah Moody 35:32

Thanks so much for having me, John. Take care.

Outro 35:34

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