[EO DC] Building Apps People Love With Ghazenfer Mansoor

Ghazenfer Mansoor is the Founder and CEO of Technology Rivers, a software company developing HIPAA-compliant web, mobile, and cloud-based healthcare software applications. As a seasoned advisor and investor in technology and healthcare, he has fulfilled roles as an architect, programmer, software engineer, user experience specialist, product developer, growth hacker, and chief technology officer.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

[01:29] Ghazenfer Mansoor shares how Technology Rivers builds HIPAA-compliant healthcare software
[04:45] Common app development mistakes and how to avoid them
[09:15] Smart ways to gather meaningful user feedback before launch
[11:02] The core tech stack behind a high-performing software team
[12:30] Productivity and health apps Ghazenfer uses daily
[14:20 ] How AI tools like Claude and ChatGPT streamline proposals and workflows
[21:22] Ghazenfer’s must-read books for business growth and productivity

In this episode…

Ever wondered why some apps become part of your daily routine while others disappear after a single use? Creating technology people truly love requires mastering retention, trust, and thoughtful AI integration. So what separates indispensable apps from the rest?

According to Ghazenfer Mansoor, a seasoned healthcare SaaS builder and author, the apps that endure are those designed around a single, essential user need and built with security and trust at their core. He highlights the importance of protecting sensitive data through privacy-first AI approaches such as retrieval-augmented generation and zero-retention language models. The impact is clear: when users feel safe and understood, they stay. He also stresses avoiding feature bloat, embedding feedback loops early, and iterating continuously based on real user behavior.

In this episode of the Rising Entrepreneurs Podcast, Dr. Jeremy Weisz sits down with Ghazenfer Mansoor, Founder and CEO of Technology Rivers, to discuss building secure, user-loved apps in healthcare and SaaS programs. They dive into designing for retention, avoiding common product pitfalls, and selecting the right tech stack to scale effectively. Ghazenfer also shares how AI tools and book recommendations shape his productivity and decision-making.

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Quotable Moments

“Many times you can pick one feature, one use case that solves the problem, and that’s the only one that would get you the traction.”
“It’s not about what we want — it’s about building something that customers want to use.”
“If it gives you 80%, that’s still a big achievement. You can always improve, but getting started is key.”
“You want to build something that people use, so you have to follow those retention strategies.”
“The experience is the one that keeps users on the app.”

Action Steps

Focus on real user needs: Start by deeply understanding your users and the specific problems they want solved, rather than building impressive-but-unused features.
Keep products simple and focused: Launch with one clear, high-impact use case to make your app easy to adopt and retain users before expanding.
Embed feedback early: Build in-app feedback loops from the start to capture actionable insights and iterate quickly based on actual user behavior.
Leverage automation and integrations: Use AI assistants, workflow connectors, and project management tools to reduce manual work and boost team efficiency.
Commit to continuous learning: Stay current by consuming book summaries, exploring new tools, and keeping up with emerging tech to adapt quickly.

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Episode Transcript:

Intro: 00:02

Welcome to the Rising Entrepreneurs Podcast, where we feature top founders and entrepreneurs and their journey. Now let’s get started with the show.

Jeremy Weisz: 00:12

I’m excited. This is part of our Top Resources series and we’re going to geek out today. I have Ghazenfer Mansoor of Technology Rivers. I’m going to formally introduce you because I’m here in a second. But when we talk technology we’re going to talk tools, software, apps, possibly books and some of his favorites of all time.

Before we get into that, I just want to introduce Ghazenfer Mansoor is the CEO of Technology Rivers. Technology.Rivers is a software development firm specializing in AI powered solutions. So think SaaS, product development, healthcare technology, and they help startups and service based businesses streamline operations, automate processes, and scale through smart, efficient software. Okay.

And he’s also the author of Beyond the Download: How to Build Mobile Apps That People Love, Use, and Share Everyday. And he shares insights on innovation, growth strategy, building technology because unfortunately. Thanks for joining me.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 01:16

Thanks for having me Jeremy.

Jeremy Weisz: 01:18

Before we get into the app, software tools, I know you have a lot. Let’s just just share with people what Technology Rivers does. And I’ll pull up the website.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 01:29

Yeah, thanks. So you pretty much explained most of it. So I’ll dig in a little bit more in a healthcare part, because that’s where the majority of our focus is for healthcare software development company helping health tech companies, physician entrepreneurs, people in the health tech space, building HIPAA compliant software products, workflow automation, healthcare space is very important and creating AI agents for the healthcare space.

Jeremy Weisz: 01:57

So why health care? How did you get into health care?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 02:01

So I started this business 2015. Our second customer was a health tech company of Baltimore. And that’s how we got into healthcare. So, you know, like from one project to another one, you get a referral. So along the way, we started one project with a startup which was Hopkins funded, and that’s where we learned HIPAA.

And then we started building HIPAA compliant software. So now more and more referrals come for HIPAA. So now we have done more than 50 different applications web and mobile. And about half of them are HIPAA compliant. And that’s one of the main things people look for in healthcare.

Jeremy Weisz: 02:44

And health care. You need that security of people’s data.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 02:48

Oh absolutely. And that’s a very important point that you raised the security of data, personal health information and a lot of sensitive data that people are not willing to share with AI. And the worry is that if you upload it, obviously Llms can use that for training. So there are strategies that you could use, and that’s where we specialize in working on a private sensitive data. And how do you use those strategies like Rag architectures and retrieval augmented generation where you store all of your internal data into a vector database, tokenize it and use that to filter.

And then AI is just helping more of a summarizing that. So those are the strategies that we use. And along with obviously having the LLM side so that they commit for zero data retention and not using the data for training. So you have to know those strategies in order to build the application for healthcare. Otherwise if you build it and you are liable for a huge.

A huge compliance risk.

Jeremy Weisz: 03:57

Yeah. And we’re going to get into your tech stack recommendations. Since we are on the apps and software, you know, kind of topic, you know, I’m going to go to your work page. This is one, you know, we had a couple that that stuck out, which was a therapy app. There’s a lot more.

But I’m just curious generally because which is okay, I mentioned about your your book. Right. What are some mistakes people make with because you said apps that people love and use. What are some mistakes companies make that hinder using it and loving it? Some of the things that you build into your applications.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 04:45

So loving with the technology and thinking from what you want versus what the customers want. so I could build something amazing that I think is great, but are my customers going to use it? I think both of us probably remember what was the the Craigslist. Do you remember that?

Jeremy Weisz: 05:08

Oh of course. Yeah.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 05:09

Okay. So what was the UI for that? Terrible. Obviously. Probably terrible.

But what was the.

Jeremy Weisz: 05:15

I mean.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 05:15

It’s just simple.

Jeremy Weisz: 05:17

Right.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 05:18

But was that was the most usable software at that time when it was so many times it’s not about what we want. It’s like there were a lot of people who built good looking tools that didn’t solve the problem. So solving what the customer wanted, building something that customers want to use.

Jeremy Weisz: 05:37

Let’s pull it up.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 05:37

Because.

Jeremy Weisz: 05:38

We all like now, right? So it’s just so super simple.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 05:43

It’s still the same. Yeah.

Jeremy Weisz: 05:44

Yeah.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 05:45

So so we have so many apps downloaded on our app on our phone. How many do we use every day? So there are few that you keep coming back every single day because those are necessity. Your email, your text messaging, your WhatsApp, Facebook, TikTok, all of those. But then there are a few that you may use occasionally for a work reason, but then you forget those.

Like there are so many apps that I can’t even count how many apps I have that I downloaded for one time, or one reason or another. And then I never went back. So you want to build something that people use. So you have to follow those retention strategies.

Jeremy Weisz: 06:27

I’m curious, you know, build something that customers will use and like, are you when you come out with a technology or before, what’s your process look like? Are you having actual users test it? You know, before are you getting feedback from them? What’s the process look like to ensure that it’s it’s customer or client friendly?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 06:51

Yeah. So there are a combination of things. So in the book I shared about 32 different strategies that could be used. And each has its own weightage. Every application is different.

Every type of customers are users are different. If you’re building something for senior citizens versus kids versus women only versus working professional, they all have different habits of using these different gadgets. So you have to look at all those considerations. Who are you building for. And that’s where that discovery part comes in first.

Where are you building for and what are you building for? Another big mistake people make is building a lot of features. So you make applications so much complicated. Oh, there’s another app you want to do better than that with a lower cost. That’s a common theme I hear from that.

And those apps rarely get traction because people are not looking for another app with 50 different features. Many times you can pick one feature, one use case that solves the problem, and that’s the only one that would get you the traction. You can always add up more later on, but you want to start with one core use case that is a unique need that those customers need. You acquire them based off of that and then start getting the feedback. So there are ways of getting the feedback before you build the app, and there are ways of getting the feedback once you build the app.

Because once you have then the there are chapters on tracking, like how do you really track and measure? And then based on that, do the learning and improve your app based off of that.

Jeremy Weisz: 08:37

So what are ways people get should get feedback before? How would they get feedback before? What are your recommendations.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 08:45

Well a lot of those. I would say a lot of those.

Jeremy Weisz: 08:49

By the way, I’m going to pull this up to as you’re talking, because here’s the book. So you can you can check it out right beyond Technology Rivers. Com. And then you know, here’s the, here’s the URL. But beyond the beyond the download here.

So yeah.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 09:05

So and it’s also on my personal website. It’s also on my personal website. Com you can also get that on there. Yeah yeah yeah.

Jeremy Weisz: 09:14

Yeah.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 09:15

Yeah. It’s just a lot of those strategies were there for some time. It’s just are you building those. Are you implementing some of those. And they were all over.

The difference in the mobile versus the web is you could embed a lot of those strategies afterwards. So you know, let’s say this is the website. And today you want to add some feedback widget. You just drop a JavaScript on your website. You don’t have to rebuild and mobile.

A lot of times you have to build inside the app so that you have it’s part of the experience. It’s not that you are just dropping, it’s not another web. You can build those apps as well, but they may not have a better experience. So there are certain things you can do. You can send a push notification later on, but there are certain things you still need to embed inside that.

So that’s a key part, key differentiator in the mobile apps that whatever your strategies are, if they are inherent in the app, they’ll give you a better experience again. And that experience is the one that keeps user on the app.

Jeremy Weisz: 10:18

Yeah, this is great. If you’re looking at the page, we’re here on your website and we can see, you know, we could go we could talk for hours probably on each one of these. Right. I mean, if we’re looking at retention hacks, partnership power, leveraging influencers, app store optimization. So if you’re interested in this stuff you can go to the website and download the book.

Right. Is there an audio version? Because I’m sure.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 10:43

It will be. It will be.

Jeremy Weisz: 10:44

Okay. Good. Because I listen to audible. So I want to make sure that there is so I can actually buy it and listen to it. Selfishly.

This is great. People can check this out. Now talk about some of your tech stack that you use as a company, and maybe some of your favorite apps and software.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 11:02

Yeah, it’s a big list of things and majority of them are used by my team. Obviously I use my every day is obviously zoom, slack, ChatGPT Claude. I’m a heavy user of these, so I use a lot more deeper ChatGPT use the projects, the GPT. So yeah, those are the main ones. But then we use Canva and our business, we use Adobe tools, we have a WordPress for our website, a lot of tools for creating different voice and images we use descript.

I think there’s a big list of tools that we’re using. On the development side. We use Jira, we use GitHub, we use cursor, which is which is like a cursor. The cursor is really good. My team love it because it’s embedded inside the IDE and the instructions.

It’s aware of the context. So the instructions given to cursor are have a lot more better response than if you’re using other tools.

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Jeremy Weisz: 12:15

What about on your phone. Like is there any personal apps or maybe I’m sure all these have, you know, you’re using on your phone. Some people use ChatGPT on the phone, but any personal productivity or health apps that you like to use.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 12:30

I use Apple Health every single day because the first thing in the morning after I wake up, I look at how much sleep I had. I’m tracking my.

Jeremy Weisz: 12:39

What’s your goal of how much sleep do you want tonight?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 12:42

I want eight hours, but I’m not getting that as much.

Jeremy Weisz: 12:47

Sometimes it’s a tough one.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 12:50

Yes. That’s true. And then. No. Yeah.

Sorry. You were asking about the app. So. Yeah. Notion is another one on my phone, even though I use desktop as well.

But it’s handy. I’m at any conference everywhere that helped me getting those quick, quick notes. Obviously Spotify for my music while walking. And another one I mean, we can talk later on, as well as the Blinkist for my book reading because it gives you a summary of books.

Jeremy Weisz: 13:21

What is it called?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 13:22

Blinkist.

Jeremy Weisz: 13:24

Blinkist. Okay. I’ve heard good things. I’ve never used it.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 13:27

Yeah. It gives you a summary of.

Jeremy Weisz: 13:29

Is it audio and reading or is it just one or the other? Both.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 13:32

Both audio and reading. So it moves the cursor along the way. So you can do both. But some people prefer.

Jeremy Weisz: 13:40

So is that a competitor audible or just different function?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 13:45

Audible is probably full book.

Jeremy Weisz: 13:48

Oh, Blinkist are all. They’re all summaries.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 13:51

Summaries only. Only summaries. And you only pay the app subscription. You don’t pay per book an audible. You pay, I mean, based on your plan.

Jeremy Weisz: 14:01

All right, well, you sold me. I’m going to get it. Thank you. Yeah, I’m a big audible person. What about, like, I know you mentioned you use ChatGPT and Claude.

Are there any interesting use cases of how you’re using each of those personally or business wise.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 14:20

So the main use case is using the products. So this is where we load different assets. And each of those projects. Now the chats inside those projects already know. So for example in Claude I have instruction set and I just gave, for example, just the company name.

I said rice 25. I’ll go to my email, look at all the last whatever the number I’ve told like five, ten emails, it would go to Google Drive and look at all the files that were shared. And it will generate a proposal based on a different templates. So with one word it can generate a proposal. Obviously, we’re expanding it to generating more deeper so that you could have even a specific type of proposal created.

We still have to, but if it gives you 80%, that’s still a big achievement. And then we use for, for example, even WordPress, we use MCP just like you have a blog that’s in a Google doc. Now you use AI to convert that into text because it messes up the formatting. And then with MCP, you just push us into. Oh, sorry.

I just went into that. It’s called. It’s a model context protocol. It’s by anthropic. It is a new standard.

So it’s like an API for AI. So anything in the path, like you build a software, you have an API.

Jeremy Weisz: 15:52

That you connect. Then MCP, you said it connects WordPress to what.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 15:57

So okay so MCP would expose any software that is chat able by AI like Claude. And now open ChatGPT also expose that. So let’s stay with Claude for now. So I have a WordPress MCP. So in Claude I can run my desktop.

Once I connect with the WordPress MCP, I can give instruction. I say, well, give me a list of blogs that are in edited shape or change this thing. I can just give instruction. It can change metadata, everything. Right?

From there I can connect my, for example, Quickbook and I just query how many subscription software I have paid for in this year? I don’t need to open those software. So it’s about I’m querying all the different software from my Claude desktop. Got it. It’s an API for AI.

That’s how you expose your API.

Jeremy Weisz: 16:49

And you said anthropic. Or is that what is it connected through?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 16:53

It’s a protocol, but anthropic is the one that came up with.

Jeremy Weisz: 16:57

I mean, anthropic. Are you? I’m just trying to visualize the Claude company. Are you. Are you on anthropic?

And then you’re connecting QuickBooks to anthropic and then giving commands?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 17:08

Yes.

Jeremy Weisz: 17:09

Yes.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 17:09

So if you are if you’re on, if you’re on Claude when you chat there’s a there’s an icon there.

Jeremy Weisz: 17:15

You click right here.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 17:17

So if you if you go to Chat Claude Desktop. If you go to like click on Claude or.

Jeremy Weisz: 17:29

Oh God. Yeah yeah yeah. You just walk me through it just so you could go through Claude here. Through Anthropic.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 17:38

Do you have Claude Desktop on your computer?

Jeremy Weisz: 17:41

So that’s why I don’t want to.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 17:44

Okay.

Jeremy Weisz: 17:45

Take the time. But but I get I get what you’re saying you have to like, basically, it’s like.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 17:50

Or if you go to ChatGPT, I can show you.

Jeremy Weisz: 17:53

Yeah. No. Go ahead. You could just. I just want to get an overall sense so people know, okay, you go to anthropic and then you click on whatever you’re using.

And then you can actually talk through it and connect it and pull in data from wherever you’ve connected it to. Is that the general sense?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 18:09

Yes. So when you so a plot desktop where you’re adding where you say add files, you know how upload in the ChatGPT just at the same place it’s called it and connectors. And then you can connect with your Google Drive notion email whichever way you want to search to. And then whenever you are searching or you’re you’re giving a prompt. The source is not the public web.

It’s actually your data. So that’s cool. You can you can connect Google Drive and it’ll give you all the answers from your Google Drive because it’s now querying your data.

Jeremy Weisz: 18:45

That’s cool. I mean, I don’t think it’s quite like Zapier or AI tools, but it is. It is a connector. And it basically.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 18:53

It is it is like.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 18:55

A Zapier for because when you connect it, you configure which one do you want to expose? What data. So yes. So Zapier is for, I would say just the regular software. This is for AI.

So nowadays it’s becoming more new standards. Any new software that you build, you build MCP server as well. You expose it as MCP so that anybody can query those things. Like for example, in JIRA, we use it for project management. I can just let’s say Claude, I can let’s say I generate some mockups In part, I just give a path to push to JIRA like it will add it to my JIRA, or it will add to a specific ticket and I can get a list of tickets and I can update the status of those directly.

Just like how you do in a slack, you have a slack connector. You could do different instructions, you could do the same thing in Claude, but a lot more broader, because now it’s giving you more free hand. It’s more like you’re doing it like a prompt.

Jeremy Weisz: 19:56

I see it makes it easier to brainstorm and then actually execute, because if you’re just brainstorming in one. And for people who don’t know Jira, I mean people use Monday, they use Clickup, they use asana. There’s a million project management software out there, but like I could see allows you to brainstorm and then then it just can die on the vine there. Okay, this is great. But then pushing it to a project management tool, assigning to someone actually getting it done is another story.

And that’s what you’re using it for. Yeah, yeah. This is great, guys. See, what’s normal to you. And natural is not normal to me or someone else.

I love digging into this a little bit.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 20:37

I’m realizing.

Jeremy Weisz: 20:38

That. Yeah, and so talk about books for a second. Right? I don’t know if there’s any AI other AI tools you want to mention before we get to books, because, I mean, it seems like obviously you’re using Claude and you’re using ChatGPT and anthropic to connect things. Are there any other, you know, tools that you’re using?

Cursor, obviously. Any other AI tools that people should check out?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 21:01

No, I think those are the main ones on top of that, like we’re using two so many. It’ll just be maybe.

Jeremy Weisz: 21:08

Exactly a lot of.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 21:10

Stuff people may already know.

Jeremy Weisz: 21:11

What are some books? It could be through Blinkist or whatever with some of your favorite books, business books, nonfiction, leadership books?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 21:22

Yeah. So my one of my favorite is Who Not How by Dan Sullivan.

Jeremy Weisz: 21:28

That’s Ben Hardy and Dan Sullivan. Yeah, that’s a good one.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 21:31

Yeah. Another one. What got you here won’t get you there. That’s another good one there. My all time favorite is Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence Others.

That’s my graduation gift for anybody who graduate. I give them this book.

Jeremy Weisz: 21:55

I agree. You know, I, I don’t know if this is bad or good, but I definitely I bribed my daughters to read it because I thought it was so important. So, you know, if I’m like, if I had that book when I was ten, that’d be so impactful and obviously like rereading it. So I wholeheartedly agree with that one for sure.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 22:19

And then another one that I use for, I mean, I give it to all the youngsters. Is getting things done David Allen?

Jeremy Weisz: 22:30

Yep. I have had him. I’ve had him on the podcast. That was a good episode. People could check that out.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 22:35

Yeah, yeah, I have a big list of.

Jeremy Weisz: 22:37

Go ahead, keep going.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 22:39

Like, I mean, I have a whole library behind me. I have a different.

Jeremy Weisz: 22:43

Maybe rattle some more off. I mean, it’s always good resources because I think one book could change someone’s life. Right.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 22:50

And so I’m a big I’m a big book reader. And then I actually listen to that. So I follow the tips. So for example, the books the The Great Game of Business and The Stack and Outcome by Jack stack. That’s one of the one like one of my partnership agreement was based off of tips from that book.

And let’s see. One thing by I forgot. Who is the author? One thing.

Jeremy Weisz: 23:25

Yeah. I’ve had him on the podcast. Jay Pappas, he’s the co-author of The One Thing, and the other guy was the I think I was the was he the founder of Remax or something?

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 23:42

I’m horrible in people’s name. What’s that book? Yeah, I’m horrible in people’s names.

Jeremy Weisz: 23:46

Gary Keller and Jay Pappas. Yeah. The one thing that’s a great one. Yeah.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 23:52

Dad helped me focus a lot more because from that point onward, I started thinking about that. Oh, yeah. My another big favorite is. This is a really good business for anybody on the sales and marketing side. They ask we you answer by Marcus Sheridan.

That’s one of the good books as well that gives you good tips on. I recently read books from Alex Hormozi. $100 million. Offers $100 million leads. And there’s the third $100 million money models.

That’s a that’s the next version. New version came.

Jeremy Weisz: 24:42

It’s on my list. I haven’t gotten to it yet because. But I want to.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 24:47

I read that during my.

Jeremy Weisz: 24:48

Didn’t you have a webinar that was like six hours or something I can’t remember. You know what I’m talking about. Alex Hormozi.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 24:56

I did not attend that. I know they have a workshop that is a multi-day. Yeah, but.

Jeremy Weisz: 25:01

It’s on my list. Like people were raving. I think he sold lots of books and things through that webinar. And so I’ve been meaning to to check it out.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 25:11

So those are good that during my I read that during Christmas break.

Jeremy Weisz: 25:15

Okay. Nice.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 25:16

And then another book that I read recently I think she was one of the speakers at one of the EO events. Brain Chemistry by Laura forgot her last name.

Jeremy Weisz: 25:30

I’ll look it up as you’re talking about the next one. Yeah.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 25:38

Yeah. That’s it. E-myth Revisited by Michael Burger. That’s another favorite one.

Jeremy Weisz: 25:45

Here it is. This is the one. Is this the one here? This is the.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 25:48

One. This is the.

Jeremy Weisz: 25:48

One. Okay, cool.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 25:49

Yeah.

Jeremy Weisz: 25:50

Yep. Brain chemistry. All right, I’ll check it out. So last question is, first of all, thank you. Everyone can check out his personal site.

You can see it here Ghazenfer.com. You can check out TechnologyRivers.com. last question is just some mentor like a mentor of yours or colleague. That’s given you a good piece of advice that sticks out to you.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 26:28

Oh, it’s it’s the hard one. And I think there are so many people in my circle. My friends, my. Yeah, there are so many mentors. It’s going to be hard to say the name, I think actually one of the latest.

I’m listening to Diane Martel lately, so a lot of his advisors are actually his book. Buy Back Your Time is also one of the. The favorite ones.

Jeremy Weisz: 27:09

Yeah. And he also I don’t know if he still runs it, but SaaS Academy, you know, which is right up your alley with the software and people creating software and apps and things like that too.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 27:21

Yeah, I don’t know if he still runs that, but yes, you’re right.

Jeremy Weisz: 27:24

Yeah. That’s great. I mean, yeah, there’s so many mentors. I consider it distant mentors, like all the books you mentioned or personal mentors. And, you know, we’re both a member of EO and that’s been a great group just to, you know, get different life lessons and, you know, experience shares through other entrepreneurs.

So because I just want to be the first one to thank you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and some of these great tools with all of us. And we’ll see everyone next time. Thanks so much.

Ghazenfer Mansoor: 27:59

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

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